The Death of Brie Is Greatly Exaggerated

In January of 2024, a rash of headlines breathlessly reported a cheesemaking “crisis” based on the news that manufacturers of the mold powders used in commercial cheesemaking are starting to have difficulty getting the molds to produce new spores. This issue is especially acute with white molds, but blue molds are starting to see some challenges as well. In this interview with Josh Windsor, we dig into the science behind the headlines–and what it really means for cheeses of the future.

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Ep 7: Beyond Brie: The Bloomies

Beware! A Cheese Crisis Looms (Vox, Jan 2024)

Josh’s response (Culture Magazine, Feb 2024)

Related discussions of blue molds (TWiM podcast + links to papers, Feb 2024)

Ep 8: Cruising The Blues

Season 3 Opener: Catch-up on Cheese News

Before we dive into the deep waters of this season’s episodes, we have a quick overview of cheese-related news items: the role of clay in affinage, the possible demise of brie as we know it, and the appearance of avian flu in dairy cattle.

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Making wine in earthenware vessels: a comparative approach to Roman vinification

Beware: A cheese crisis looms

U.S. dairy farm worker infected as bird flu spreads to cows in five states (April 1)

Bird flu may be spreading in cows via milking and herd transport (April 4)

Bonus Replay: Winter and Holiday Cheeses

It’s the time of year for rich foods and lavish spreads–and that means cheese! In this replay episode, we talk about the special properties of winter milk and what that means for late-season cheesemaking. And then how to choose cheeses for a memorable holiday cheese board.

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Ep 3: Touring the Cheese Kingdom

Cutting the Cheese — a short primer on selecting and presenting a nice cheese board

How to Cut Every Cheese (video)

Truffle cheese

Ep 20: The House of Mango Cheese

Isabella Chen is one of a growing number of artisan cheesemakers around the Pacific Rim whose mastery of European-style cheeses and fluency in their own native cuisines are combining to take cheesemaking in interesting new directions. In this fascinating episode, we hear about the challenges–and tantalizing opportunities–of merging different culinary techniques and traditions.

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Episode 19: The Chinese Curdverse

Episode 18: Ohhh, Biiiiig Stretch!

Print interviews with Isabella (featuring lots more exciting flavor combos than we were able to cover): Guide Michelin, Taipei Times and Vino Joy News

Lab Man Mano website (in Chinese)

Image source: Vino Joy News

Ep 19: The Chinese Curdverse

Cheese in ancient China? Yes! From the early Bronze Age until early modern times, dairy products have been a part of Chinese life–and sourced from all kinds of animals, including some we don’t normally think of as dairy animals. In this interview with Dr Miranda Brown, we get a glimpse into the world of traditional Chinese cheesemaking.

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About Dr Brown | Instagram | Blog

Mr Song’s Cheese – a recipe for Chinese stretched curd cheese

Ep 18: Ohhh, Biiiiig Stretch!

Ep 16: Milk Today, Cheese Tomorrow

Timeline of Chinese dynasties

Ep 18: Ohhh, Biiiiig Stretch!

Praise for stretching: not just something you offer your dog. Long, glossy ribbons of fresh, warm cheese curd get transformed into balls, braids, wheels and spindles all around the world. Great for snacks, melting on pizza or tortillas, grilling and frying, or stuffing in pastry–stretched curd cheeses are a favorite everywhere they’re made!

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The science of melting and stretching and a deeper look at meltability

Caciocavallo: How it’s made

Indian (rennetless) stretched cheese: how it’s made

Image: Making Queso Oaxaca, Sour Milk School, April 2023

Ep 16: Milk Today, Cheese Tomorrow

Cheese can be eaten at any age! Nearly any age person can eat it–but also cheese itself can be eaten little more than an hour or two after milk leaves the udder.

In this episode we talk about Cheeses for the Impatient–some of the oldest types of cheese in the world, yet still the most widely eaten today. They’re especially flavorful and fresh-tasting in Spring, so now is a great time to explore.

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How lactic acid coagulation differs from rennet coagulation

Ep 7: Beyond Brie–The Bloomies

Leaves in Cheesemaking

Image source: Wikimedia